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Eckoes
04-20-2012, 06:15 PM
Paul McCartney and Linda openly admitted their love for Pink Floyd, and they were among those interviewed for the Dark Side sessions (unreleased til this day).

What I didn't know was that they were acquaintances with members of the Floyd. Here is a picture I found today, I never saw it before.

http://i.imgur.com/t1am5.jpg

Stupid comments from me to all of you: I couldn't help but laugh at this picture. Laugh out loud. At the now-ridiculous clothing and hairstyle they have. Pretty sure you'd be called crazy for wearing a tie-dye unicorn shirt with a pink vest and a molester 'stache now (or a hipster if you live on the East Coast). But also David. Where do I start? Gilmour doesn't look like anything here. He's a cloud of smoke with hair and a bootleg Dallas Cowboys shirt. If you ask me he looks like he's approving of the scene he's looking at and at the shit that Paul just said. Also, is it a joint he's smoking? I think it is, must be sharing it with Paul. I can't help but imagine David saying in a very cold English way "I thought that unicorn was on your shirt, dude".

I googled the hell out of this picture and the only info returned is that it was presumed to have been taken at a Led Zeppelin show circa 1975. I want to be sure of that. All I know for sure is that:

Led Zeppelin was touring North America between January 18 and March 27, 1975
Pink Floyd was touring North America between April 8 and July 5, 1975 and Wings didn't perform in North America at this period. So, no scheduling conflict.
This picture is obviously outdoor
Paul sports his glorious early 1975 moustache and mullet, David has already started to have his grizzly beard.



Any idea anyone? Could it really be at a LZ show? If it's true, that picture could qualify has one of the coolest Rock picture of all time. McCartney and Gilmour at a LZ show.


EDIT 2012-05-02: It was taken on August 21, 1976 at the Knebworth Fair festival, during a Rolling Stones concert. Thanks to younglight, she's the one who found it, made the research, and should get every credit for it! Thanks a lot to you!!!


And that's NOT a unicorn t-shirt, it's the logo of the "Wings over Europe Tour '76"

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzdc2szU6p1rnrlzmo1_500.png
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2225/corbisu1877748.jpg
http://www.edp24.co.uk/polopoly_fs/still_recognizable_after_all_these_years_paul_mcca rtney_was_at_knebworth_incognito_1_228886!image/4238768529.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_225/4238768529.jpg

Funio
04-20-2012, 06:29 PM
Led Zeppelin didn't play any outdoor shows in 1975...

Eckoes
04-20-2012, 06:36 PM
Led Zeppelin didn't play any outdoor shows in 1975...

Oh really? :( Fair enough. A rock fan fantasy has just been crushed...

Nice picture by the way, isn't it?

Alan smithee
04-20-2012, 07:03 PM
I'd say it's from Knebworth but Dave was sporting a Montreal Canadiens shirt that day (check out my avatar)
But this is not to say that he didn't change his shirt at some point.

I hope someone can pin point the location and/or date.

lenchik
04-21-2012, 07:02 AM
Dave mentioned that he hadn't had a chance to see Led Zeppelin in the 70s, that's why he was really keen to see them at O2.

Orgone Accumulator
04-21-2012, 03:41 PM
Is this from that CSNY concert in Wembley?

Eckoes
04-21-2012, 04:05 PM
Now, all we know is that it's very likely that the picture was taken between January and April 1975, due to McCartney look, and PF schedule. So far, it has been ruled out that it was a Led Zeppelin concert. But it is outdoor anyway. A sport game? A concert?


Is this from that CSNY concert in Wembley?

At Wembley? A CSNY concert at Wembley stadium?

Orgone Accumulator
04-21-2012, 04:26 PM
http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/wembley-1974.html (JTS TM929)

Yeah boi!

andy517
04-21-2012, 07:44 PM
At 9gag they think it is a LZ show.

http://9gag.com/gag/3894312

Eckoes
04-21-2012, 10:23 PM
At 9gag they think it is a LZ show.

http://9gag.com/gag/3894312

It's not. We proved it wasn't. If Gilmour said he never was at a LZ show during the 70's, then it couldn't be. Also, LZ didn't play any outdoor show at the time. All we know is the date: late 1974, early 1975. More likely to be early 1975 due to schedule. An outdoor event in England, maybe a festival or a soccer game. But not a LZ show.

Really, no one know where this picture come from?

Alan smithee
04-21-2012, 10:35 PM
http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/wembley-1974.html (JTS TM929)

Yeah boi!

I think we have a winner.

Orgone Accumulator
04-22-2012, 01:26 PM
Robert Plant, his then wife and an LZ roadie were at the CSNY gig in 1974.

http://pyzeppelin.free.fr/photos/plant/rob74_09_wembley-theband.jpg

This is the picture that reminded me of the one of Dave, Paul and Linda. I guess it is taken from the press section at the front of the stage and so many famous people were in the crowd they turned the cameras around before the actual gig took place to capture some of them. Looks like similar lighting.

kimirkim
04-22-2012, 09:34 PM
Another picture from the same event http://a-slice-of-awesome.tumblr.com/post/21516420629/awesome-picture-paul-mccartney-david-gilmour . I always thought it was knebworth.

BarneyMcGrew
04-23-2012, 08:33 AM
Totally stoned in that one.

Eckoes
04-23-2012, 02:27 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzdc2szU6p1rnrlzmo1_500.png

Indeed, same event, and yes that was a joint. :) (Well, as if anyone here was convinced by David comments in the Pompeii movie about Pink Floyd and the use of drugs, hahahahahaha).

We have two more likely possibilities:

CSNY concert at Wembley stadium in 1974
Knebworth 1975 festival


Is it Knebworth for sure? I don't see it written anywhere.

dellboy
04-25-2012, 04:50 AM
Isn't that Robert Redford in the background?

gotta_be_crazy
04-25-2012, 05:32 PM
Isn't that Robert Redford in the background?

yeah, he looks like him, maybe

kimirkim
04-25-2012, 09:02 PM
Just found this (http://www.barriewentzell.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=953) site, great pictures indeed.

Eckoes
04-26-2012, 03:30 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/egg_man09/Pink%20Floyd/homegrown.jpg



"We're not a drug-oriented band. You gotta trust us." --David Gilmour, 1973


Well, take a look at this t-shirt, and those eyes. :) Sorry David, but, who are you kidding? :15:

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/8195389/Roger+Waters+RogerPompeii.jpg

I just love this interview during the filming of Pompeii, 1971. David and Roger seems to be very high all the way through.

Alan smithee
04-26-2012, 03:35 PM
Well technically,they were telling the truth.

Cannabis is lumped together with coke,smack and speed..Fact is,cannabis is not a drug,it's a weed.

Eckoes
04-26-2012, 03:49 PM
Well technically,they were telling the truth.

Cannabis is lumped together with coke,smack and speed..Fact is,cannabis is not a drug,it's a weed.

Fair enough. I couldn't agree more. Let's not forget poor Syd, David's cocaine problem during the AMLOR tour, and Rick's one during the late 70s.

mev70
04-26-2012, 06:18 PM
I realise what I am about to tell you is second (or third!) hand information, but anyway, here goes...

I travelled around Europe, seeing 22 gigs on the 1994 Pink Floyd tour. Being my first time in Europe (I'm Australian by origin), this was a great opportunity to experience the continent and meet other fans / collectors. An Australian friend who I was travelling with knew a guy in Australia who was a Floyd roadie in the 1970's. One of his jobs was apparently to buy drugs for Gilmour (can't recall if it was hash or marijuana). This roadie is a friend of Floyd's guitar technician Phil Taylor. My friend tried to made contact with Phil before one of the gigs (he was told to by the ex-roadie in Australia) but he was busy with the soundcheck. A message was passed on to Phil but we never heard anything again. We awaited outside the backstage area and were almost let in by an understanding local security guard, but was stopped by the PF security. It was only when my friend got back to Australia that he heard that Phil did arrange backstage passes for us but we did not know where we were supposed to pick them up.

So, if this story is to be believed, we missed out on backstage access provided by the Floyd guitar technician because my friend knew Gilmour's ex-drug provider / roadie!

The story I heard from my friend was that Gilmour was a regular smoker in the 1970's (and I don't mean cigarettes).

Eckoes
04-26-2012, 07:03 PM
The story I heard from my friend was that Gilmour was a regular smoker in the 1970's (and I don't mean cigarettes).

They are british. If they dared to smoke drugs in public, that means that it was pretty regular under the rock :)

Alan smithee
04-26-2012, 07:06 PM
Well,here's the deal on this secondary topic.

If you listen to past interviews with Rick,he's quite open about smoking dope..He's said that they all did.
Roger recently told |Howard Stern that he used to smoke alot of hash back in the day and Dave was/is a friend of Paul McCartney so it's obvious what they did together.

Also,back during the 1994 tour,there's a story about a roadie who was burned coming into Canada with a small piece of hash...Apparently,the band was ready to cancel shows in Canada and the roadie was let off.

Some of the greatest music ever recorded was thanks to cannabis...I'd even venture to say LSD but the boys probably experimented with that at a minimum unlike Syd.

None of this is surprising but the band's use of cocaine is a different story..I never heard them discuss or ever mention that even though it's highly rumoured.

The hash smoking?....It explains alot..I guess it's no coincidence that listening to Floyd and smoking go so well together...Even if I no longer smoke it.

Here's a lyrical hint...'The inevitable pin hole burns all down the front of my favourite satin shirt'

villanovajunction
04-27-2012, 09:47 AM
I don't know if someone posted the question on a beatleg yahoogroup, but I've just read the answer in my beatleg dailymail-diges :

This pic originates from the Elton John / Beach Boys concert (Midsummer Music) at Wembley Stadium on June 21st, 1975.

Chip Madinger
www.lennonology.com

high hopes
04-27-2012, 08:08 PM
I have a seen an interview where David openly talks about his cocaine use back in the late 80's. He said it left him with an enlarged heart.
Since he met Polly, he's been on the straighten arrow.

Good old Paul announced a couple of months ago that he was giving up smoking pot, at age 70 he needs a clear head to bring up his young daughter.

Eckoes
04-28-2012, 10:07 PM
I don't know if someone posted the question on a beatleg yahoogroup, but I've just read the answer in my beatleg dailymail-diges :

This pic originates from the Elton John / Beach Boys concert (Midsummer Music) at Wembley Stadium on June 21st, 1975.

Chip Madinger
www.lennonology.com

Oh really?! Where is it?

Alan smithee
04-28-2012, 11:21 PM
I don't know if someone posted the question on a beatleg yahoogroup, but I've just read the answer in my beatleg dailymail-diges :

This pic originates from the Elton John / Beach Boys concert (Midsummer Music) at Wembley Stadium on June 21st, 1975.

Chip Madinger
www.lennonology.com

GONG...The Floyd played Pittsburgh June 20 and Milwaukee June 22...I doubt Dave took off in the middle of the tour for a concert at Wembley.
The CSNY concert makes a helluvalot more sense.

villanovajunction
04-29-2012, 07:05 AM
GONG...The Floyd played Pittsburgh June 20 and Milwaukee June 22...I doubt Dave took off in the middle of the tour for a concert at Wembley.
The CSNY concert makes a helluvalot more sense.

thanks for the info. Sure, Chip Madinger affirmation seems now improbable with Gilmour's "agenda".
Would you mind if I contact Chip to give him the info about Pink Floyd's tour (the Pink Floyd gig/tour database seems accurate now) ?
Chip tends to be reliable in the Beatles world. He wrote several books about the RoIO (studio recordings, etc...) with a lot of insight infos. Currently he is finishing a book about Lennon solo work (Strange Days Indeed will be the title)

My guess was that it was Knebworth 75... but Paul and Gilmour probably meet several times in the seventies...

judging Paul's mustache and haircut, it looks like the Wings late 74 era.

- is there a Wembley stadium in the USA ?

BarneyMcGrew
04-29-2012, 11:34 AM
.... - is there a Wembley stadium in the USA ?

Not back then. I know we shipped London Bridge over there in the late 60's early 70's, an American gazillioniare bought it, rumour had it he thought he was buying the more impressive Tower Bridge! As for the iconic Wembley Stadium where West Germany were cheated out of the 1966 World Cup and scene of Live Aid, its long gone and I don't think it was relocated to the USA, it was just mashed and replaced with a modern eyesore designed in such a way grass finds it all but impossible to grow there now.

As for whether he would have got on a plane in the middle of a US tour to watch a gig there and fly back, well Learjets were common amongst 70's rocktarts so its not outside the realms of decadence. I'm sure David St Hubbins and Nigel Tufnel would have done it.

villanovajunction
04-29-2012, 01:00 PM
ok, got an answer from Chip Madinger (I emailed him, telling him that Wembley gig couldn't match with Gilmour's schedule) :


"That's what I get for answering a McCartney question with my Lennon hat on. On further reflection, I recall that it was an outdoor festival in the UK. Does the Knebworth show in 1976 fit the timeline better?

Chip

Sent from my iPhone"



ok, so here's we back to Knebworth... could it be Knebworth 1975 rather than 1976 ? (I know that Gilmour shirt is somehow different, but the pictures I knew from Paul with Gilmour were commonly known to be taken at Knebworth 1975)

villanovajunction
04-29-2012, 01:04 PM
the thing is that this particular photo of Gilmour with Paul doesn't not match with the other photos from Knebworth 75 (Paul + Gilmour) I've seen; Gilmour doesn't wear the same tshirt...
but perhaps Gilmour changed his tshirt more often than he used to wash his hair ;-)

Eckoes
04-29-2012, 01:48 PM
As for whether he would have got on a plane in the middle of a US tour to watch a gig there and fly back, well Learjets were common amongst 70's rocktarts so its not outside the realms of decadence. I'm sure David St Hubbins and Nigel Tufnel would have done it.

They would have been lost backstage. ;) Yes, for the plane trip, that would have been extremely complicated.

So far, CSNY 74 or Knebworth 75. We'll found out.

younglight
05-01-2012, 04:22 PM
Judging from Linda & Paul's astonishing haircut, and this http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/stones_still_had_a_long_way_to_roll_1_282996?ot=ar chant.PrintFriendlyPageLayout.ot it's Knebworth '76.

They were there for the Rolling Stones but what they got was the Rocking Skynyrds...

Alan smithee
05-01-2012, 05:38 PM
Maybe if we can pinpoint the era when the Dallas Cowboys t-shirts were available in those colours,we'd get an answer.

Supposedly only 13 players wore number 56 for the Cowboys....2 of them in the 70's....Rodrigo Barnes (1973-74) and Thomas Henderson (1975-79)

I can't find the t-shirt Dave was wearing...if I could get a year when that particular t-shirt was available maybe we could get an idea..OR,if someone knows their football and know which of these players would more likely have a t-shirt after them..maybe we'd have an answer.

If indeed it's Thomas Henderson,this pic would be from 1975 or 1976.

younglight
05-01-2012, 06:40 PM
Just in case you didn't get it http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/U1877748/paul-and-linda-mccartney?popup=1

wromanus
05-01-2012, 07:58 PM
Just in case you didn't get it http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/U1877748/paul-and-linda-mccartney?popup=1

My dear younglight!
Well done!

RonToon
05-01-2012, 08:19 PM
Good research indeed.

And FYI, that's NOT Robert Redford in the original photo.

Eckoes
05-01-2012, 08:23 PM
Just in case you didn't get it http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/U1877748/paul-and-linda-mccartney?popup=1

Congratulations ! So we know: a Rolling Stones concert art Knebworth in 1976!

younglight
05-01-2012, 08:30 PM
Good research indeed.

And FYI, that's NOT Robert Redford in the original photo.

And that's NOT a unicorn t-shirt, it's the logo of the "Wings over Europe Tour '76" :D

The other photo: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/paul-mccartney-with-david-gilmour-of-pink-floyd-portrait-news-photo/113249028

Eckoes
05-02-2012, 12:53 PM
And that's NOT a unicorn t-shirt, it's the logo of the "Wings over Europe Tour '76" :D

The other photo: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/paul-mccartney-with-david-gilmour-of-pink-floyd-portrait-news-photo/113249028

Congratulations younglight! Pink Floyd fans 1 - Beatles fans 0. :sexy:

So yeah, not a Led Zeppelin concert, but still an iconic picture. McCartney and Gilmour sharing a joint during a Rolling Stones concert! One was in the middle of his biggest tour ever, and the other one was recording Animals... YEAH! :)

younglight
05-02-2012, 06:05 PM
So yeah, not a Led Zeppelin concert, but still an iconic picture. McCartney and Gilmour sharing a joint during a Rolling Stones concert! One was in the middle of his biggest tour ever, and the other one was recording Animals... YEAH! :)

Speaking of Animals... I was thinking that this may be one of the few photos available of the Floyds in 1976... they didn't tour and it seems they were not photographed at other social events , so maybe it would be interesting to dig the magazine from wich this photo was scanned (you can see the page mark between David and Paul).

younglight
05-02-2012, 06:56 PM
EDIT 2012-05-02: It was taken on August 21, 1976 at the Knebworth Fair festival, during a Rolling Stones concert. Thanks to younglight, he's the one who found it, and should get every credit for it!

Thanks Eckoes! BTW, younglight is "she" :sexy:

Eckoes
05-02-2012, 06:58 PM
Thanks Eckoes! BTW, younglight is "she" :sexy:

Here you are, corrected! :worthy: Thanks a lot to you, you beat reddit and the Beatles fans!

RonToon
05-02-2012, 07:36 PM
That's funny. FYI, TH2 is a "she" as well. Shhhhh. ;)

jimfisheye
05-02-2012, 09:30 PM
Thanks Eckoes! BTW, younglight is "she" :sexy:

That's hilarious! I haven't seen that gif used as a visual aid before.