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    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoes View Post
    Sorry to reopen an old thread but... Now that the boxset has been released, we have Echoes from Wembley. Previous speculations might have been right.

    The opening note on Echoes has been changed by something else, and the sax solo is different sometimes. Overall it seems to be from the 16th, but some parts of 15th could have been used too.
    ...so it seems that our ears were right and the official story, while overall accurate, did not tell the whole picture.

    I was told more than four years ago that a surround edition of the 1974 show(s) was simply impossible because the band said so. Once again, I wonder.

    At the same time, they'd have to make their money back, which is not a sure thing. I worry with the price drops of the Early Years set that it did not sell as well as hoped.

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    Sorry, Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts VI-IX) is the only song never officially release of this concert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by remiserogilmour View Post
    Sorry, Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts VI-IX) is the only song never officially release of this concert?

    Basically what they performed is what they had written at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jchrist1946 View Post
    When I spoke with Buford Jones over lunch, he told me there were only two overdubs, both on Comfortably Numb. So minor, they could easily be forgotten about. Part of Tim Renwick's acoustic guitar (Buford almost got to play it, as Tim was unavailable while the mixing session was occurring, and apparently Dave didn't want to do it ) and then I want to say Sam Brown actually sang backup on that track. I don't recall who it was that she replaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pastrami Domine View Post
    Basically what they performed is what they had written at the time.
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    Heh, It tickles me that I made the same edit on Echoes from the bootleg a few years ago for my own purposes. HUGE bass mistake haha.

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    Does anyone know if there are any differences in the Wembley songs from the WYWH Immersion set? Is there a thread that talks about this box set?
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    At second thought, were these songs ever bootlegged before the WYWH set was released, from an audience source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Which One's Pink? View Post
    Does anyone know if there are any differences in the Wembley songs from the WYWH Immersion set? Is there a thread that talks about this box set?
    Yes, there is:

    http://yeeshkul.com/forum/showthread.php?38721

    Quote Originally Posted by Which One's Pink? View Post
    At second thought, were these songs ever bootlegged before the WYWH set was released, from an audience source?
    Yes, both shows that were used, 15 and 16 November 1974, have been circulating for years in several different versions.

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    Just to throw my hat in the ring - I don't believe for a *second* that there are no multitracks for the DSOTM portion of the 16th.

    We've either got bad info or someone was misquoted. Period.

    The types of enhancements done to the material from the 16th could not be achieved with spectral editing or any other type of two track processing. No way.

    I also remember someone (Andy Jackson, maybe?) saying that the missing kick drum track was replaced on one night by using samples of the kick drum from the other night, but I can't remember the source of that quote, and I could be mis-remembering what he specifically said. If I recall, in the same interview it was mentioned that some of the effects from On The Run were missing from the multis, but the audience tracks on the multis were sufficient to pick up what was going on in the room, as there was no close audience noise. Again, I will dig and see if I can find this interview.

    Is it possible that the multis of the 16th were missing material and some of the BBC stereo mix was flown in? Yeah, maybe - I'd have to listen again. But the idea that the entire first half of DSOTM is from the BBC stereo mix is just...impossible. Take the fixes to the intro to Time, for example: - the clock effects have been fixed - they warble on the BBC stereo mix (I think the live effects tapes were damaged), Roger keeps better time on the bass "tick-tocks", Gilmour's guitar has a tremelo effect, and the rototoms have reverb added and some hits removed altogether. A multitrack recording would be the only way this could be done. Also, the line of Rick's vocals in Time couldn't have been "flown in", either.

    I would think there would also be a significant reduction in fidelity compared to the second half - no way a live-to-2-track mix made in 1974 is going to equal the sound of a multitrack recording mixed on modern equipment.

    Anyway, just my two cents.
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